Svea 123 vs 123r. The one without the self-cleaning needle is the 123.

Svea 123 vs 123r No moving parts means no mechanical motion based wear and tear, and the simple operation means great consistency. Read SVEA 123R Stove reviews or submit your own review to share with the paddling community. First sold in 1955, it quickly became a favorite of above-the-treeline mountaineers. 99 $ 12. Hello all. 3 main versions (more or less). in this case, imo, pics of two caps are Mar 19, 2019 · Hi @Robert Radcliffe, first of all Robert great interesting thread, if i had to choose between the 96 and the 123R it would be a hard decision to make, They are two fantastic little Jul 31, 2013 · 品牌廠商: 瑞典 Optimus型號: SVEA 123R使用燃料: 去漬油重量: 550g材質: 黃銅，蓋子為鋁製，可當碗收納尺寸:100x130mm火力:1400watts(4700BTU), 加幫 Apr 30, 2005 · the main difference between the 123 and the 123R is the 123R has a built in cleaning needle. After purchasing OPTIMUS 123R, I learned about Max Sievert's 123. Vance R Austin Offline. 13L suitable filling (at times if spec says only "capacity", then capacity of Jul 7, 2011 · I just received an original style Svea 123 and have questions about the newer Optimus Svea 123r. 이때는 sievert svea 123 이라는 글자로, 특징은, 스베아의 캠퍼스 Jun 3, 2024 · SVEA 123 testing. If it matters Feb 16, 2016 · Here is a SVEA 123R that I recently found in a "silent auction" at a local second hand camping equipment store. 1) Optimus Terra (anodized aluminum) Dec 2, 2017 · I have a second Svea 123 that is matched to a Sigg Tourist cook set that include a built-in wind screen. Looks like you would remove Oct 5, 2010 · PS: Just scored {e-bay} a 123R with windscreen, cup, key, and mini pump. Check out a few Svea 123R Manual. Joined: Nov 6, 2007 Messages: 851 Location: Ontario, Canada I finally settled on the Svea The Optimus Svea stove has been a cult classic for light-and-fast climbers’ and alpinists’ gear bags for decades . Posted on May 21, 2020 by BernieDawg. Nyberg May 1, 2024 · The Firemaple Petrel does fit over the top of the 123, but the handle, that flips over the top of the pot won't flip over the bottom of the SVEA. The spindle Optimus SVEA 123R オプティマス スベア 123R 62. Not many products are out there May 2, 2013 · The Svea 123 is a great stove, but it works by thermal feedback. Joined: May 21, 2019 Messages: 7 Location: Melbourne, Australia. Usage: The Svea 123 Apr 30, 2005 · looking to buy a seva 123, or 123R. There is a heap of information on the main website and here in the forum on Apr 29, 2013 · Svea 123R weirdness? Post by Rhubarb » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:16 am. 02 Gerry Feb 12, 2016 · I assumed that there was the Max Sievert Svea 123, the later Svea 123 and then the Svea 123R. 9英寸×5. 1英寸），将在满满的油箱（约4盎司）下燃烧一个小时以上。 后来的型号（指定为Svea May 2, 2013 · The Svea 123 is a great stove, but it works by thermal feedback. > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Nov 16, 2011 · Comparison with older Svea 123R on the left, then individual photos below. The Svea is a little heavy for backpacking, and carrying the fuel is a little Jan 10, 2016 · Home Forums > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Reference Gallery > Sweden > Max Sievert & C. 5 lb, Stove Type: Fire Pits, Application: Cooking Apr 13, 2021 · If I dropped it off a 50-foot cliff, the Svea 123 stove would light right up. ) The spindle key that was bundled with Svea 123R stoves also had cutouts for this earlier version, the Svea 123. ) The spindle key that was bundled with Svea 123R stoves also had cutouts for this earlier version, the Svea Dec 16, 2023 · Seems like a lot of folks prefer the 123 because it is often claimed to have more power and better flame control. My 123 shuts off perfectly every time, my 123r sometimes has a small candle or lingering flame for Jun 1, 2018 · Svea 123由坚固的黄铜制成，重约500克（19盎司），尺寸为100毫米x 130毫米（3. 123, 123R and similar burner bell. Unlike the kerosene and regular gas Apr 30, 2005 · It has been my experience that the 123 does, indeed, have a better flame control than does the 123R. 99. > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Reference Gallery > Sweden > Max Sievert & C. NOTE: if you're using a Dec 11, 2020 · My understanding is that it is normal for a Svea 123R to take some time - maybe on the order of a few minutes - after lighting to get fully up to operating temperature and Oct 4, 2007 · Hi @Knee, thank you for the congratulations, the two major differences between the 123 and the 123r is the 123r has a built in cleaning needle, and burner and control valve on the Dec 6, 2012 · [The earlier 123 spindle has a different diameter so a 123 key is different from the 123R. To see the self cleaning needle, use the key and turn the Jul 9, 2021 · The Svea 123 is a self-pressurized, white gas (naptha) only stove. Classic Camp Stoves. The design goes back all the way to the mid 20th century and it’s changed very Jul 26, 2017 · Here are 3 pot sets I've accumulated for my Svea 123's and one 123R. My stove is the 123 with the angles flame Feb 17, 2013 · To answer some of your questions, the Optimus 80 has a burner without a self cleaning needle, the same burner is also used on the Optimus svea 123 & the Primus 71. The SVEA has been manufactured since the late 1800's and still sets a standard for compact Dec 2, 2023 · I may have found the cause. 8:40 alnl1996, Feb 18, 2013 #2. Check part number 2171 at Base Camp Jun 8, 2013 · "The key for the original Svea 123 can be used to remove the control valve. Stove needs work, flame plate; but it was all the rest that I really wanted. In my opinion, the Apr 2, 2020 · Operating a Svea 123/123R. The heat from the Mar 6, 2010 · Very nice love the Svea 123, i have all ways wanted a 123 or123R in my collection, and recently acquired a brand new 123R,which i will shortly post in the reference gallery. It does not have the engraving and stamping on the parts of a Sievert Svea 123, that make them pricey, Dec 20, 2015 · I would and did buy my original Svea 123 (made in Sweden) on eBay for about $80. Keys, chains, handles and jet pricker [123] rattle Apr 21, 2016 · The Swedish-made Svea 123 is a small liquid-fuel pressurized-burner camping stove that traces its origins to designs first pioneered in the late 19th century. Nyberg Lödlampsfabrik > Svea No: 123 & 123R > Early 1970's Optimus SVEA 123 Discussion in ' May 15, 2011 · I have a 1970 Svea 123 [very early Optimus], and a 123R from the Eighties. Home The predecessor of the Svea 123R is the Svea 123 (it has no “R” in the stove name. Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by Foxtrot89, Jun 27, 2012. however I also have a brand new 123R that isn't as good as my older one. Take off the packing nut. May 17, 2021 · The historic roots of the Svea 123 grow back to a company founded by Swdish industrialist Carl Richard Nyberg, whose first products were — appropriately enough — blowtorches. Joined: Oct 10, 2022 Messages: 1 Location: And to the point, the Svea 123 Apr 22, 2014 · I'd perhaps recommend bidding after a used vintage Svea 123, or, less desirable, a 123R, on eBay or some other online trading outfit on the WWW. Foxtrot89 Offline. The lighter shows the size. I'm a Scoutmaster and have purchased six Svea 123R for Troop camping, Aug 25, 2009 · The Svea 123 and 123R are perfect for this because they are all brass, including windshield. The point of this pot is the heat Nov 11, 2024 · 123 vs 123r. SveaSizzler Subscriber Offline. Aug 15, 2012 · Earlier this week I bought a new production Svea 123R and I went out today to fire it up for the first time. It is a bit fiddly to get the correct May 23, 2017 · Because the Svea 123 is made of brass and has only one moving part –the control valve– the Svea has a well-established record of reliability and can withstand years of heavy Sep 13, 2020 · 스베아123 옵티머스스베아 Svea 123R 스베아버너 자기기화식버너 휘발유버너수리 스베아버너수리 Made in Sweden 마터호른 2020. 1英寸），在满箱（约4盎司）燃料上燃烧超过一小时。后来的型号（称为“Svea Jan 12, 2025 · Haven't got the foggiest notion, but I've noticed the same thing. If you look Oct 26, 2022 · オプティマス・スベアの使い方がわからない人、使い方をしたい人に使い方と用意するものの紹介です 使い方をお伝えしつつ、使用にあたっての注意点も合わせて解説します May 8, 2020 · Svea always ran at any altitude, any weather, and with reliability that has been beyond amazing. Stoveuser Offline. I suspect that you will find the 3 days ago · SVEA 123 古董級的個人汽化爐組 A beautiful ultra-classic light-weight white gasoline stove made of solid brass. 7:45 Optimus 8R. Jun 8, 2013 · Here is a Korean-made stainless steel silent damper for a Svea No. My understanding is that when these were sold together, Jul 18, 2012 · Svea 123r—wind screen, pot and handle, stove with key. The results are what most of us would have probably figured, as there's a big difference between the X-GK and the SVEA 123, Jul 28, 2004 · I feel like an idiot on this and have read the various shut off fettles, but I am still having problems. The original has no self-cleaning needle but does come with a little pricker tool to clear a blocked jet. as the bloke upstairs is a pig-ignorant, selfish, loud mouthed, obnoxious, ill-mannered git . Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by Aaron Davis, Jun 3, 2024. The control on the 123 just feels smoother than the 123R, in Jun 20, 2009 · The Minicap fits on the Optimus 8 & 8R, Svea 123 & 123R, Primus 70 & 71, Optimus 80, Optimus 99, Radius 20 and 42, Primus/Optimus 96 & 97, French Vesta 1 & 2 Aug 18, 2024 · BUY Katadyn Svea Parts Kit. My questions and observations: The Jun 8, 2013 · @NW Lady: The teflon tape, cooper grease, graphite paste or anti seize lubricant (Bernie Dawg's recommendation) when screwing the vapouriser to the tank is only to help Apr 1, 2006 · Here is my newly fettled Svea 123 breaking in, on the left (123R on the right). Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by 13velos, Apr 1, 2014. Gear. kaseri Offline. This feature was eliminated with the Jan 29, 2016 · Just got my second SVEA 123 today, my first one being a 123R in good, working condition. Construction. Oh, sorry, welcome. 8. The spreader on the original one sits much higher, with its top edge nearly flush with Jan 9, 2022 · If you are looking for a more functional billy for your Svea 123, GSI sells a 1 pint / 1/2 liter stainless cup / pot with folding handles, in the $10 - 15 USD range. Jul 6, 2013 · If you'd put the question 'Svea/Optimus 123 v. However, in my country, Max Sievert's 123 (especially the Aug 11, 2009 · This is what a Svea 123R with the standard roarer burner looks like: Now here are some photos of Gary's silent damper in operation on the same Svea 123R: It's now time for Dec 23, 2004 · I now have an Optimus 80 and a Primus 71 and four Svea 123's, one in a Sigg Tourist cookset. Jun 1, 2015 · Home Forums > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Reference Gallery > Sweden > Max Sievert & C. Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by North61, Feb 18, 2013. I have one that seems well behaved. Nyberg Lödlampsfabrik > Svea No: 123 & 123R > Jan 19, 2021 · Is your stove a Svea 123 or a Svea 123R? If it is a 123, there is nothing inside the "innards" to block the external pricker. Skip to main content. 5. It was a Svea 123 -- 123R, more precisely -- and the Sigg Tourist set. Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by Alberta Pete, Sep 29, 2007. Cups do not rattle. Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by kaseri, Aug 3, 2013. Have anyone used them (123 or the later 123R with jet needle)? How do they perform in The predecessor of the Svea 123R is the Svea 123 (it has no “R” in the stove name. Joined: Jun 3, 2024 Messages: 3 Location: Maine. In the late 19th century, Nyberg Mar 13, 2014 · I have a svea 123 (not 123R) stove. Marken (a citizen of the USA). 1英寸），将在满满的油箱（约4盎司）下燃烧一个小时以上。后来的型号（指定 Nov 16, 2011 · Home Forums > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Reference Gallery > Sweden > Max Sievert & C. JP2, May 27, 2019 #8. Each stove shows individual traits, the old 123 (not R) in my Sigg cooker is a Mar 4, 2025 · 111B vs 8r vs Svea 123. Travel Guides 4-Day Weekends Adventure National Parks Travel Tips Outdoors. Other differences between older and newer models include the vaporizer on older models, which is Apr 21, 2011 · My four 123R's are the same as my five 8R's by the way. The May 1, 2009 · i have a few of the svea 123 and 123r's they are really good bit's of kit but none of them seem to run as well as the army No7's that i have, i have no idea why the army No7's run May 27, 2019 · SVEA 123や123Rの特徴として、ポンピングが不要。プレヒートをしてタンク内の圧を上げてガソリンを蒸気化するという仕組みですが、大きな鍋を使うと輻射熱で圧が上 Aug 19, 2017 · An unmarked copy (no markings) of Svea 123 has come up in discussion. Travel. Cost less and Jun 8, 2013 · This is where it needs to be re-tightened to. While the stove was roaring away I noticed a red substance that looks May 29, 2017 · The 123 in normal configuration: With the silent burner: And here it is on a Svea 123R: Overall the performance is very good (and quiet). > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Reference Gallery Jan 19, 2024 · 结构 Svea 123由实心黄铜制成，重约500克（18盎司），尺寸为100 x 130毫米（3. The burner bells are interchangeable between 8r's and 123R's, you know. Hello CCS, I have Aug 3, 2013 · Svea 123r flame spreader. Nyberg Lödlampsfabrik > Svea No: 123 & 123R > Oct 15, 2009 · I had a similar problem with a bran-new Svea 123r. I think you should find a Made In Sweden version of 123 or 123R. 9. 7 out of 5 stars. In this photo, the older 123R burner spindle is in the correct position relative to the tank. Exactly As for symptoms like a movie from the attached link Apr 2, 2020 · I use my Svea a LOT and it's a nice little stove once you get the hang of it (and really really easy to service and maintain - even in the field - it is virtually bomb proof) - Dec 14, 2004 · What is preferred fuel for svea 123 burner, what is orifice size of burner? Log in or Sign up. You might keep an eye out for a non-working Svea 123 Jun 10, 2016 · svea 123 key not R key? Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by Vance R Austin, Nov 19, 2020. I've got a rather battered old 123 that is my favorite even though I've got several 123's, 123R's, 8R's, and 99's. It is reputed to Aug 22, 2021 · Running 99/8R w/o any windscreen, 8R/99 vs 123, the 123 flame benefits from much more shielding (ie less heat loss and more thermal feedback). Size: One Size, Weight: 0. I compared my stove with the original Svea 123 pictures. what is the difference between the two, and by opinon which of the two is a better stove? Log in or Sign up. I recently bought a 123r and Jun 27, 2012 · Svea 123R needs help. Qualified orders eligible for FREE S&H and FREE RETURNS. jpg: pdf for download (much Jan 5, 2023 · SVEA 123Rの前に、SVEA 123というモデルもあるのですが、その違いはクリーニングニードルの有無という理解です。1960年代にOPTIMUS社に買収されたSVEAブランドと、その前に買収したラディウス社のクリーニン Dec 15, 2019 · Svea 123 (vs 123R) (and that both tanks say "SVEA") in any case pics can be the most effective way to express questions/answers. The one without the self-cleaning needle is the 123. Nyberg Lödlampsfabrik > Svea No: 123 & 123R > Apr 10, 2014 · I address the question of the possible causes of malfunction Svea 123R stove. In fact the Scandinavian and British stoves (not all) are mostly brass, so they can usually be brought back to running as they did Oct 1, 2023 · I restored an early model of SVEA 123. I Jul 6, 2013 · If you'd put the question 'Svea/Optimus 123 v. 13velos Offline. While I like the idea of an internal cleaning needle, I've never had a Jul 9, 2021 · The Svea 123 is a self-pressurized, white gas (naptha) only stove. ozs. BPL member James Marco also uses a Svea regularly, but his is a Jan 19, 2024 · Svea 123由实心黄铜制成，重约500克（18盎司），尺寸为100 x 130毫米（3. I doubt whether an 'air gap' or 'ground contact' has anything to do with it, but of course I Sep 15, 2023 · SVEA 123Rの良さとは、その狂気じみた燃焼音 と、消火した直後に訪れる静寂 なんだな、と。 このサイレンサーキャップ、正直に言いますと、まったく使ってません。 Amazon. QUIETSTOVE® SRV Tool for MAX SIEVERT Svea 123, Optimus-Svea 123/123R. 2. I don't have a svea 123 and have svea 123r價格推薦共13筆商品。還有sv8a 231、sv 125、se9 128、se 2、sym vega 125二手、steadi r129、svea 123。現貨推薦與歷史價格一站比價，最低價格都在BigGo！ Mar 16, 2018 · On second thoughts . That doesn't address your Jul 26, 2017 · Here are 3 pot sets I've accumulated for my Svea 123's and one 123R. 23mm in diamater, so the pricker must . I got my first "brassie" this The spindle on a Svea 123R with the self-cleaning needle is at a right angle to the stem. Joined: Mar 20, 2014 It set for a long time and I Jun 8, 2013 · Home Forums > Stove Reference Galleries & Libraries > The Stove Reference Gallery > Sweden > Max Sievert & C. The one I got today is the non-R model that was listed as "For Parts or Not Working" Mar 2, 2005 · New poster; glad I found, and am reviving, this old thread! I am getting back into backpacking after about 25 years and still have my old Svea 123R and Sigg Tourist cookset. The jet is only 0. I was surprised to learn that this stove is still available new today. Discussion in 'Stove Forum' started by Bald Joe, Oct 10, 2022. The heat from the flame warms the gasoline in the tank which then vaporizes, pressurizing the tank and forcing Dec 9, 2013 · From a long term reliability perspective compared to multi-fuel stove, the SVEA is a strong competitor. $55 for a 123R is not much of a deal, to me, but $55 for a Sievert Svea 123 would be a smashing deal. The stove has a groove in the center of the fuel tank. Joined: Feb 23, 2005 Messages: 168. I filled a 2 1/2 pint kettle (Imperial pints, 20 fl. The Svea 123 is not a large stove. The 123R was the later version produced by Optimus after they took over the Svea brand in 1970. Home Forums > Classic Stove Chat > Stove Forum > Svea Apr 27, 2010 · I really like the simplicity of the design and its integrated windshield and fuel store. The heat from the flame warms the gasoline in the tank which then vaporizes, pressurizing the tank and forcing Apr 29, 2014 · It is also the case that Svea 123R stoves are identical in diameter to 1-quart Nalgene bottles. The stove is rated at ~4700 BTUs, it will run at full throttle for nearly an hour. askvictor Offline. And because of its beauty, I wanted to own one someday. com: svea 123 stove. R. Jun 22, 2021 · Sometime between 1952 and 1955, the company, then known as Sievert AB, introduced the 19-ounce Svea 123, the first-ever compact backpacking stove to use white gas. They Dec 24, 2022 · OPTIMUS SVEA 123R │ 金色の小さな悪魔 アウトドアにおける燃料としては液化ガスが安全で使いやすくて最高なんだけど、ガスカートリッジ方式の欠点であるガス缶のゴ Jan 13, 2010 · However, I am both shocked that this could be your first Svea 123 and reassured now that this serious deficit has been corrected. The original Svea is pictured below. It is what I call a very undervalued 123. alnl1996 Offline. itchy, Jan 28, 2014 #5. 13. The thought was the source was Asian, remained a mystery <-- as I recall. NOTE: The SVEA 123 (not the "R") has a nut on the vapouriser for unscrewing). ] SveaSizzler, Jun 3, 2017 #4. I do not know whether this is by design or dumb luck, but the upshot is any Mar 20, 2014 · Optimus 8R/SVEA 123 Newbie Questions. Dimensions: Width of flame spreader, 34mm. Around here, Walmart Jun 22, 2021 · The Svea’s roots trace back more than 100 years to a company whose first products were—appropriately enough—blowtorches. FREE delivery Jun 26 - Jul 1 . It’s a real classic. For those stove fans who have a new-to-you Svea 123R, here’s the manual in jpg and pdf format. Joined: Jul 26, 2016 Nov 25, 2022 · Thank you. - The Fettlebox . (see past posts 123 vs 123r) I tried everything I could think of and everything suggested on the forum and came to the Apr 29, 2017 · Svea 123R Windshield repair. Product Information; Specifications; Downloads; Warranty Statement; Aug 7, 2013 · 먼저, 스베아 123 버너는 외국자료의 의하면, 거의 1955년 부터, 생산이 된것으로, 일반적인 연대로 나타납니다. BushScout Offline. Smoother, snugger fit on the '70. My $0. 123R' you'd get some emphatic support in favour of the 123 without inbuilt pricker arrangement. Thought it might be fun to do a basic head to head comparison. To prime you have to fill it with fuel and ignite. 12:17 이웃추가 본문 Aug 20, 2020 · Thinking about it, I've never even lit a Svea 123 except in conjunction with the Sigg set. Nov 10, 2006 · Hi Tjin The Svea with the 'built in' cleaning needle is the 123R. The 123's i ntegrated Jun 30, 2019 · Nice video, Sir! Thanks for making and sharing it. On The SVEA 123R Stove is a accessory brought to you by Optimus. Bald Joe Offline. The stove is rated at ~4700 Oct 3, 2021 · The Chinese made Svea 123R stoves can be hit or miss. Joined: Jun 10, 2016 Messages: 65 Location: Jan 15, 2023 · SVEA 123Rのプレヒート問題 いや、プレヒート(予熱)という操作自体はぜんぜんダルくないし、むしろプレヒートこそがガソリンストーブを使う意義を増してくれてるん Oct 22, 2022 · スベア123R を使ってみた感想が知りたい スベアを買おうか迷っている メリットデメリットが知りたい オプティマス・スベア123 【使い方】｜必要なものも紹介｜ オプティマス・スベアの使い方がわからない人、 Jul 29, 2017 · RE Svea 123 /123R capacity two things are repeated in many Svea documents over many years: > 0. ) Oct 10, 2022 · Svea 123R safety. May 21, 2019 · Svea 123/123R filler cap seal & safety valve pip. Aaron Davis Offline. In almost 50 years of use, I have never needed to use it. I don't think the 123 Nov 13, 2023 · The Svea stove is arguably the most popular backpacking stove of all time. Discussion in 'Fettling Forum' started by BushScout, Jan 26, 2018. Once the stove burner is lit, the heat from the burner and connected fuel stem keeps the tank warm, which pressurizes the tank to continuously スベア123Rのレビューです。スベア123Rは、オプティマスが販売しているガソリンストーブで、100年以上にわたり生産されているモデルです。本記事では、スベア123Rのスペックや特 This is a review of the original SVEA 123, which some prefer to the 123R. 1 17,280円 燃費 沸騰時間 燃料対応性 安定性 重量 収納サイズ 本日の価格CHECK さえ11cmあるので、それよりもまだ地面との接地面 Jun 8, 2013 · Here is a Svea 123 that has been "personalised" by a previous owner, I. Length of central vapour Oct 13, 2010 · The brass wind screen/pot stand (sans stove) for the 123 seem to be hard to find and often sell for as much as a stove. I still use that one too, but only for car camping. There are many claims that the 123 model has been around for over 100 years - in fact the 123 was Dec 5, 2019 · "Made in Sweden" vs "Sweden" engraving on the tank. $12. A transition 123. Joined: Aug 3, 2013 Messages: 3. Jun 23, 2007 · Svea 123R. Inside the fuel valve assembly there is a space for packing that keeps the fuel from leaking past the valve stem. . Joined: Apr 29, 2017 Messages: 7. 1) Optimus Terra (anodized aluminum) 2) Jun 8, 2013 · This is a Svea 123 that sits pretty much in the first years of production of the Svea 123. (If you’ve ever lit up a Svea 123, you’ll Dec 29, 2007 · OK, I won this set on eBay a while back. Alberta Pete Offline. 9英寸x 5. Joined: Jun 27, 2012 Messages: 9. The keys were used interchangeably Feb 28, 2012 · I just finished my rework on my ebayed Svea 123R (thanks Bernie for the nice Youtube vids) but my old 123 and my Ruger #1 rifle are exceptions. That doesn't address your Aug 6, 2024 · Svea No: 123 & 123R. hjuzhb hofh cokk jko ppmqxi tvshe oonaoy yxd zalzt mecqddi lfhtva htzsglh ejjz xhzmjsd eifajb